Former NATO Deputy Secretary General Rose Gottemoeller

A "massive attack" by Ukraine - this is how Russia describes a daring incursion by Ukrainian troops into its Kursk region. And while Russia claims it has stopped the incursion, evidence from the ground suggests fighting is ongoing. This comes as Russian forces creep closer to the strategically important city of Pokrovsk in eastern Ukraine, threatening a vital supply line for Kyiv. Bianna discusses with Rose Gottemoeller what Kyiv’s strategy might be, and what its US ally makes of it.  Also on today's show: WSJ reporter Emily Glazer and Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic; Raj Chetty, Director, Harvard’s Opportunity Insights; USA Today sports columnist Christine Brennan  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices