Don't overlearn lessons: Staying nimble in turbulent markets

"When the thesis changes, you have to change with it," says portfolio manager Julian Abdey. From earning the nickname Dr. Doom as a bank analyst in the leadup to the global financial crisis to scenario planning throughout the pandemic, Julian has honed the skill of doing his own research to gain an edge and stay ahead of change by embracing it. He sits down with Mike Gitlin to discuss how he gains conviction, where he sees potential "oaks" among small-cap "acorns," and how his brief foray into life as an academic economist influences his approach to risk management. Tune in to hear the evolution of an independent thinker. #CapGroupGlobal       For full disclosures go to capitalgroup.com/global-disclosures         For our latest insights, practice management ideas and more, subscribe to Capital Ideas at getcapitalideas.com. If you're based outside of the U.S., visit capitalgroup.com for Capital Group insights.         Watch our latest podcast, Conversations with Mike Gitlin, on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbKcvAV87057bIfkbTAp-dgqaLEwa9GHi         This content is published by Capital Client Group, Inc.         U.K. investors can view a glossary of technical terms here: https://www.capitalgroup.com/individual-investors/gb/en/resources/how-to-invest/glossary.html         To stay informed, follow us         LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/capital-group/posts/?feedView=all         YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CapitalGroup/videos         Follow Mike Gitlin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikegitlin/         About Capital Group   Capital Group was established in 1931 in Los Angeles, California, with the mission to improve people's lives through successful investing. With our clients at the core of everything we do, we offer carefully researched products and services to help them achieve their financial goals.         Learn more: capitalgroup.com         Join us: capitalgroup.com/about-us/careers.html         Copyright ©2025 Capital Group