UrbEx DEBATE 2 - stealing, graffiti, breaking in, preserving places, dealing with cops, exploring alone, running into dogs, language used, rules in urbex with panel of 3 explorers

Welcome to the second episode of the UrbEx debate! In this episode, we have three distinguished guests: John Law, a legendary urban explorer with over 45 years of experience exploring abandoned places in San Francisco; Max Boncina, a world traveler and explorer based in New York; and Eric Holubow, an expert urban explorer from Chicago. Throughout the episode, our guests engage in lively discussions on a range of topics related to urban exploration. They delve into controversial issues such as stealing items from abandoned places, the artistic value and legality of graffiti, the ethics and safety of breaking into abandoned sites, approaches to preserving these places, strategies for dealing with law enforcement while exploring, the merits and risks of exploring alone, encounters with dogs during exploration, the language used within the urbex community, and the rules that govern urban exploration. John Law, with his extensive experience, brings a wealth of knowledge to the discussion, emphasizing respect for abandoned spaces and the importance of responsible exploration. Max Boncina provides a global perspective, considering cultural variations and ethical implications of different practices. Eric Holubow shares his expertise from the Chicago urban exploration scene, offering insights into legal considerations and preservation efforts. Throughout the episode, the guests offer unique perspectives, drawing from their diverse backgrounds and experiences. Listeners gain valuable insights into the complexities of urban exploration, its impact on communities and historical sites, and the ethical considerations involved. Tune in to this thought-provoking episode as our guests engage in passionate debates and share their wisdom, contributing to a deeper understanding of the world of urban exploration. Links / Social Media:  Instagram: johnwilliamlaw (John Law), eholubow (Eric Holubow), max.bon (Max Boncina) Website: johnwlaw.com (John), ericholubow.com (Eric), maxbonphotography.com (Max) Chasing Bandos Podcast is available on chasingbandospodcast.com or your favourite podcasting app. Check out the pictures of our guest on Instagram at chasingbandospod.  You can get in contact by email: [email protected]  Support us by purchasing Abandoned China book - fascinating journey into incredible abandoned locations all over China! Why 'urbex explorers' don't share exact locations here: gregabandoned.com/urbex Intro song is Watcha Gon' Do is performed by Chris Shards [EPIDEMIC SOUND MUSIC LICENSE]. Rapid fire round background songs are: Greaser by TrackTribe and a tune composed by New Jersey explorer dragonboyac.  Listnerer discretion announcement at the beginning of the episode was done by Adrian Wunderler-Selby.