The Bronze Lie: The Spartan Supremacy Myth with Myke Cole

In this episode, we join acclaimed author and military historian Myke Cole. The conversation spans various aspects of Spartan society, debunking myths and shedding light on the realities of ancient Greece.Origins of the Discussion:Introduction to the episode's theme: a critical examination of Spartan military prowess.Acknowledgment of the audience's interest, prompted by a Patreon subscriber's question.Sparta's Reputation:Delving into the question of whether Spartans were genuinely regarded as elite super soldiers in antiquity or if it's a modern stereotype.Exploration of the historiography and pop culture that contributed to the creation of the Spartan myth.Sources on Spartan History:Discussion on the limited written records from Spartans themselves, relying on interpretations from contemporary sources.Evaluation of Xenophon's influence, particularly in portraying Spartan military prowess.Spartan Military Engagements:Overview of Sparta's involvement in various conflicts, including the Peloponnesian War and the Cleomenean War.Emphasis on selected battles highlighting Spartan defeats to challenge the myth of invincibility.Success and Failure in Spartan Military Record:Addressing the perception that Spartans lost more battles than they won.Analyzing notable victories, such as the first Battle of Mantinea in 418 BC, to provide a balanced view.The Agoge and Spartan Training:Dissecting the Spartan agoge, its portrayal in popular media, and the challenges in separating fact from fiction.Relying on Plutarch's accounts and questioning the accuracy of the agoge's extreme practices.Spartan Women and Social Fabric:Disproving the myth of warrior women in Sparta.Highlighting the unique rights granted to Spartan women, such as inheritance and sports participation.Sparta's Decline and Social Conservatism:Examining factors contributing to Sparta's decline, including social conservatism and slow adaptation to military innovations.Connecting the decline to the battle of Leuctra in 371 BC and Sparta's inability to keep pace with changing warfare dynamics.Closing Thoughts:A lively and informative discussion challenging common perceptions of Spartan history.Acknowledgment of the audience's role in contributing questions and engaging in historical exploration.You can buy the Bronze Lie at the History Rage BookshopAnd you can follow Myke on Twitter @MykeColeYou can follow History Rage on Twitter @HistoryRage and let us know what you wish people would just stop believing using the Hashtag #HistoryRage.You can join our 'Angry Mob' on Patreon as well. £5 per month gets you episodes 3 months early, the invite to choose questions, entry into our prize draws and the coveted History Rage mug. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.