Behind the News: Alex Vitale and Ben Tarnoff

Alex Vitale (http://www.alex-vitale.info/), author of The End of Policing, on why cops are being so brutal and what should be done with them. Then, Ben Tarnoff (https://twitter.com/bentarnoff), co-founder of Logic magazine, on tech worker organizing (essay here (https://logicmag.io/the-making-of-the-tech-worker-movement/full-text/)).