Okay, Computer 6/15/22: FUD Cuts Deeper Than Swords with Brian Kelly, Founder & CEO of BKCM

Dan talks with FirstMark Capital’s Founder & Managing Director Rick Heitzmann on navigating the bear market (2:34), mounting layoffs in tech and other industries (8:56), the threat of margin calls for institutional & retail investors (12:26), softness for SaaS companies (14:20), and why having cash will control your destiny amid the turmoil (18:45). Later, Dan speaks to BKCM founder & CEO Brian Kelly about why he thinks crypto coins are still currencies (22:48), crypto not proving to be a hedge against inflation (24:32), the fallout from Celsius freezing withdrawals and its impact on DeFi (31:56), Brian’s belief that there’s a generational opportunity to buy crypto coming up (38:29), how the latest crypto crash will trigger more regulation (43:20), and if crypto poses a systemic risk to the financial system (44:40). —- Email us at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We’re on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page