The Country 27/01/25: Damien O'Connor talks to Jamie Mackay

We ask the Former Ag and Trade Minister for his take on Trump, trade and tariffs. We discuss controversial Gaza comments (something he and Trump have in common), and Shane Jones digging up the West Coast. And we debate Jacinda Ardern's legacy, with her book coming out later this year.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.