#10: Hadas Alterman - What We Talk About When We Talk About Psychedelic Infrastructure

Welcome back to The Trip Report Podcast, a production of Beckley Waves, a Psychedelic Venture Studio.Today, The Trip Report is speaking with Hadas Alterman, and let me warn you, you are in for a doozy.Hadas is the Director of Communications and Policy at the American Psychedelic Practitioners Association (APPA), and in this conversation, we leave no stone unturned.We discuss APPA, the organization, the mission, and the specific work they’re doing to support psychedelic therapists, guides, and facilitators.But we also dive into the concept of power and influence and how these forces are shaping the emerging psychedelic ecosystem.We get into the weeds on the most important legal and policy topics in the psychedelic space right now, like the influence of Big Pharma on the DEA and how that is affecting the field now and could in the future.We talk about “The Establishment” and the institutions that have outsized influence on the path of the psychedelic emergence, including the FDA’s meddling with the practice of medicine, most famously during COVID and now with public comments on the use of off-label ketamine.We also discuss:* Bridging the wisdom of the underground and traditional lineages with the modern medical system;* The process of bringing together stakeholders from different parts of the psychedelic ecosystem for constructive dialogue and consensus-building;* The varieties of psychedelic access routes and the tradeoffs inherent in them; and* The current geopolitical situation unfolding in the Middle East.And now, without further ado, I bring you my conversation with Hadas Alterman.Listen to the episode on Substack, Spotify, Google or Apple.Credits:* Hosted by Zach Haigney * Produced by Zach Haigney, Erin Greenhouse, and Katelin Jabbari* Find us at thetripreport.com* Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn and YouTube* Theme music by MANCHO Sounds, Mixed and Mastered by Rollin Weary This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thetripreport.com