Episode 50 - Is 5G energy efficient?

We're talking to Ericsson's head of sustainability, Mats Pellbäck-Scharp, about how 5G can "break the energy curve". The expectations might be that as 5G means more data being transmitted, it will also use more power. But is that true? Here's the report we're talking about: https://www.ericsson.com/en/about-us/sustainability-and-corporate-responsibility/environment/product-energy-performance