Ep. 171: Dr. Carissa Gustafson — Depression 2. How to Make Peace with Painful Feelings—and Still Find Hope

My guest this week is therapist and author Dr. Carissa Gustafson, who wrote an excellent book called Reclaim Your Life: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in 7 Weeks (affiliate link). We focused on using ACT to treat depression, since this is the second installment of our series on effective ways to manage depression. As you’ll hear, ACT is a form of cognitive behavioral therapy or CBT, but it has a really different emphasis, especially in how we deal with the negative thoughts that are so common and distressing in depression. Instead of working to change the thoughts themselves, we focus on changing our relationship with our thoughts, as Carissa explains. We also talk about how we can move through low energy and low motivation and do what’s important to us when our mood is so low, and how sometimes we need to let our hearts break so they can open. I know you’ll take a lot from this episode.