We're having a break!

It's time for Katie and Tom to have a break so they can do some proper supine chin-stroking about the fascinating conversations they've had in the podcast over the last 12 months. And what better excuse than Christmas? We'll be back on the 10th of January with Brigitte Bardot, but if you can't wait until then check out our (now quite enormous) back catalogue of episodes. Have a lovely Christmas, Fire lovers, and see you in the new year. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.